Megasquirt wasted spark cop
Megasquirt wasted spark cop. Why would you waste spark with a coil for every cylinder. by dagamesdk » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:31 pm. Yes d14 is a, d16 is b, d15 is c. 7 like the manual the Jun 6, 2017 · crankshaft position sensor is required - a camshaft sensor is not used at all for wasted spark. by rickb794 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:00 pm. 0 board. Hello Guest, welcome to the initial stages of our new platform! You can find some additional information about where we are in the process of migrating the board and setting up our new software here The following shows a simplified block diagram of the Megasquirt system. Note that MS2/Extra 3. My Cars. Bowling & Grippo describe the MegaSquirt as "an experimental do-it-yourself programmable electronic fuel injection controller. Mar 28, 2016 · Re: Wasted spark vs Wasted COP. Thanks people Aug 28, 2007 · - 4 VB921 ignition drivers mounted to the MS case roof for cooling. See section 5. Given the car is specifically for track use and will have the boost turned up shortly, i am wondering about going COP, still wasted spark set up as i have a microsquirt V2. Thanks Matt - confirmation is appreciated. 5/2/10 7:44 p. The concern was the batch fuelling. Its all there. 0 w/ 2. The car is still running very well and winning races on road courses all over the Southeastern US. Again, best bet is the manual. (For wasted spark, there would be 10 milliseconds. Second setup was for COP, using the main trigger wheel and one of the other signals, the other is grounded through a resistor to the block right by the dizzy. You will find that a MS2 can do 6 logic level spark outputs. by grom_e30 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:20 pm. I've checked resistance and its a good ground. by Bzltyr » Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:32 am. Since then, it has not ran and just The following shows a simplified block diagram of the Megasquirt system. 2, and connect them via the ignition driver resistors directly to the 3 IGBT transistors which I'll install on a Most MegaSquirt vendors ship the MS1/Extra firmware as standard on MS1 boards. by Powderminkey » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:29 am. Mar 31, 2013 · 3,880. Ther is some indication that future code will be able to use the extra teeth for predicting rpm differences for more accurate timing. May 23, 2010 · it's easy to do COP as wasted spark, your just firing 2 coils at the same time. The MS2 can drive a maximum of 6 spark outputs. I've researched and tried multiple configurations with the jumpers and within the software. 2 ms dwell time and 1. It is currently bone stock WRT coils. 75" total length. I figured it must be due to the board jumpers that I am not familiar with. So you have set JS11 for three separate Aug 1, 2006 · For actual COP you would need three magnets/teeth on the crank wheel and one magnet/tooth on the cam. You do need a cam sensor with the MS2 to run sequential, but it MUST be a single tooth wheel. ) MS3 supports full-sequential on a V8 or semi-sequential with wasted spark on a V12. Coils are working in out test but it didnt spark et cranking. Also, can someone please elaborate on the differences between "wasted spark" and "wasted COP" as there is next to no information about these modes in the Jul 21, 2013 · Re: MSD 6 and COP. I had it running perfect a week ago, since then I have removed the MS unit and my plug n play harness (I made it), and fixed my fuel pump turn on issue (bridged solder joint, oops). Always verify in test mode before firing the motor. But when i set it to Coil On Plug instead of Wasted COP, the Jun 5, 2023 · A wasted-spark coil pack? Individual coils-on-plugs (CoP)? Without doing a deep dive into all three, suffice it to say this just determines the number of ignition outputs we need to check. In order to get the proper ignition I would need a single 36-1 wheel with two VR sensors 180 degrees apart and an EDIS-6 for each VR sensor. Choose the option for Coil on plug, wasted spark. The QuadSpark can work with any MegaSquirt variants. Since the engine's firing order is 1-3-4-2, i soldered the spark outputs as follows: Spark A: Cyl 1, Spark B: Cyl 3, Spark C: Cyl 4, and Spark D: Cyl 2. The pnp drivers aren't in the Ms2/3 manuals, they may still be in the ms1 manuals. 2 of them are on LED 17, the other 2 are on LED19 circuit. by phillyc77 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:44 pm. 0 wasted cop i tray to explain my problem. So i have the DIY PNP megasquirt for my e30. Board setup per manual: Jumper VRIN to TACHSELECT, VrOUT to TSEL, D1 is just jumpered (no diode) same for D2. This is cheap (relatively speaking) and supposedly gives good results, despite still being a wasted spark system. Driving two coils from the same spark output e. g. by Matt Cramer » Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:30 pm. Jun 23, 2011 · I currently plan to only use (only) the crank signal to run 4 coils with two outputs from megasquirt and 4 bip igniters. 3 on mine) Jan 23, 2018 · I should clarify - you will be selecting wasted spark in your settings, not wasted COP. Had to turn on the noise filter when I went from MS2 to MS3 + MS3X. Mar 5, 2015 · Coil 2=Spark B Coil 3=Spark C Coil 4=Spark D I know with MS3X fueling, all 8 drivers must be wired in firing order regardless of settings (batch,semi,full). I wired them directly to the appropriate pins May 14, 2017 · Used the dual coil packs from a 99 Rolla for the wasted spark setup. **Due to the nature of the product, returned orders will be subject to a 20% restocking fee** Mar 24, 2017 · The way around this, and how the Ford EDIS works, is to utilize what is known as a wasted-spark configuration, where the spark is fired for both paired cylinders (based just on crankshaft position), and the spark for the cylinder on its exhaust stroke is therefore 'wasted. No need for any nicities, just performance! Megasquirt 1 PCB 3. I'd remove or bypass the Miata spark outputs, though, as you'll be using a different setup. 2 ohms (around 1. However, the car will only run on cylinder 1 & 3. MS2 Wasted spark. 0 using wasted spark ignition, batch fire injectors, an electronic boost controller, stock ICV, LC-2 Wide-band O2 sensor, and stock crank position sensor. What you've been doing is firing 1-2-1(when 4 should be firing)-2(when 3 should be firing), with 3 & 4 just being dragged along behind, unsparked and unloved. All you would be doing is adding unneeded complication to your ignition system. I have also done cop's in series, in a wasted spark setup driven by edis, as well a pair of vb's. If you only want wasted spark, then you can just use a crank wheel. This section of the manual will focus on the spark/ignition output and ignition coils. You cannot coil share on a 5 cyl engine however you can run wasted spark providing you have COP. MS2/E v3. . In the help manual it states boldly to be certain of your selection or you could melt your coils. 3, p57 of microsquirt manual Aug 21, 2007 · MegaSquirt ; Wasted Spark COP guys Wasted Spark COP guys. if i was going to do this would i need to get a harness from that year or is there a way i could wire the the coils in with my 99 factory harness? Like. Some 1. I'm a quick study but I'm just getting started with this. Primary resistance 0. Stock 60-2 VR missing tooth on crank. for wasted spark, you don't need a cam sensor at all. 2 - 1. The QuadSpark was designed to work with the MS3X’s logic level injector outputs. You've also set JS11 as a boost control output and as a programmable on/off output triggered by coolant temperature. If you verify spark timing that leaves only fuel and you then need to work on your VE table. " With MSPNP2, we've already done the experimenting, programming, and wiring Aug 12, 2013 · Re: 4 cyl wasted spark cyl pairing. Using these pins requires also running a 100 ohm resistor from If you have the coils with one boot underneath them and the other connector connecting to a spark plug wire on the companion cylinder, set the number of coils to “wasted COP. 1992 BMW 525i M50 Non Vanos 24v Turbocharged. ' COP can be set up in a wasted spark configuration also, but now the At its core, the MSPNP2 uses a MicroSquirt Module running MS2/Extra firmware, combined with extension boards designed by DIYAutotune. With COP, the sparks only have to occur every two revolutions per plug, so the dwell+spark can be up to 20 milliseconds (8 times longer), and this generally is more than enough time to optimally charge the coil for a full spark. Wasted Spark COP Configuration Question Post by gm2 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:00 pm Hi all, I'm working to get a 3. Thank you, James that is good information. QuadSpark Wire Colors… Dec 8, 2011 · BTAcoma Discussion starter. I have a friend that has been running a wasted spark coil pack but is wanting to switch over to COP but, is willing to let them run in a wasted spark format. You will need a pullup resistor on WLED. Dec 28, 2017 · Apologies in advance for my ignorance. Jun 4, 2011 · If you are running wasted spark on a 4-cylinder engine, then you only use two signal channels. It should be addressed in your documentation that it is coil sharing as you are sharing coils the wasted spark is just a by product of an even fire engine. Option 2 is to go COP and run 2 more wires in to go to sequential ignition as I have 2 spare ign Sep 29, 2021 · I have the ignition settings set to wasted spark and spark output to IGN1 (see attached screenshot as well as msq file). He is using the stock 2jz 12-1 wheel for a crank signal and everything else appears to be working fine except for the Jul 27, 2023 · All 6 injectors are fueling. M20 Wasted spark help. The older MS2 units seem to have issues with firing our module reliably. a 3. Modern OEMs like COP for two main reasons: 1 it gets rid of the HT spark plug wires in the engine bay and thus simpler packaging and 2 it reduces AM radio interference. 0" top of spark plug ceramic to below connector. 0 versions are set for this full time. #1 · Dec 8, 2011. The problem is in spark, I have it but only from D14 (top of R26). Hi, I'm in the process of wiring up wasted cop on my V6. 8T's use a multitooth cam sensor that might not work with MS, FWIW. car runs fine with wasted spark or wasted COP but not in COP mode Linfert Performance/321 Motorsports Aug 6, 2007 · I am between using the MS to control methanol which will cost about $400+ once parts gathered, or buying the Snow Performance Stage 2 @ ~$400. This should be applicable for the Microsquirt as well. Most motorcycle motors run wasted spark and they spin 14500 so i can't see it causing any problems. Been running the COP setup for several years now. Targeting engines with semi-sequential or batch-fire fuelling and wasted spark ignition. by prof315 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:15 pm. An un-modified fully populated MS2 board has ONE High Current Ignition output. Sep 27, 2014 · The MS2 can drive a maximum of 6 spark outputs. The firmware is designed to operate using either a supported ignition system, such as GM HEI, or Ford EDIS, or it can decode certain trigger wheel signals from crank/cam sensor pickups and directly run wasted spark or coil on plug. - Wire Ign 1 to one side of coil and Ign 2 to other side, have both fire at same time and have the spark plug leads orientated so that each side of the coil will fire both Oct 30, 2019 · These systems require a solid ignition signal to ignite. 87x code. I bought the additional 2 extra drivers i would need. It will do so on the compression cycle and the Aug 29, 2020 · Ign Outputs: Wasted Spark COP/CNP, LS2 coils. so i know everyone who has a 2rz running on megasquirt runs the coil on plug steup from the 01-04 2rz. Nov 15, 2016 · A 36-1 wheel on the crank will easily surpass distributor accuracy and allow you to use wasted spark which will provide 40,000volts of very accurate distributorless spark. Jan 20, 2023 · Hi. You can also use an example as a base map, you The MS2 can drive a maximum of 6 spark outputs. 8 - 1. The motor is an early 2. Dec 24, 2006 · I would have liked to do true sequential cop on the subie, but needed extra outputs to drive the variable cams, and variable valve lift. But I still can't find the correct solution. Using it with the MSPNP lineup, MS3Pro ECUs, or DIYPNP are covered in their own product documentation. I thought all wasted spark cop was to run half as many coils as cylinders. com. Aug 14, 2014 · With COP, the sparks only have to occur every two revolutions per plug, so the dwell+spark can be up to 20 milliseconds (8 times longer), and this generally is more than enough time to optimally charge the coil for a full spark. 0 Dec 9, 2009 · The V12 is basically two I6's spaced 180 degrees apart in the firing order. Nov 4, 2007 · by SiGmA_X » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:18 am. For the traditional MegaSquirt line, we recommend the V3. phantasmjupiter. Vintage. The ground wires for the cop's are spliced together and go to the closest ground on the firewall. Board designed using Logic spark outputs D14, D15, D16, and JS11 (pull up resistor). Jan 27, 2008 · Im helping out a freind trying to megasquirt a 2jzgte int a MKIII shell and he wants it to run the stock 2jz coils in a wasted spark configuration. Microsquirt v2. This is the ignition set up: ign output1 is Spark A via 2x 330ohm resistors to 2x BIP373 = cyls 1 & 5 in wasted spark format (the extra resitors are to reduce the loading on the board outputs) WLED is output for Spark C, 1Kohm pull up resistor between output and vref 5v (as per section 5. 4cyl COP without ignitors (wasted spark format) 6cyl and 8cyl COP without ignitors. I bought the Megasquirt3X instead of the cheaper Microsquirt. Mar 2, 2015 · I've got an MS2 customer running COP w/4g63 successfully but I also have an MS3 customer with the same phasing issue i. Re: Microsquirt V8 MOD wasted spark batch fuel boosted. Share More sharing options Followers 0. Sep 20, 2011 · What you guys call wasted spark is actually called "coil sharing". So little power goes to the no working plug i doubt you'd see a difrerance in wear infact you might find they last longer do to running cleaner. Hey guys, I am using a 6 COP waste spark setup on my BMW M50, using stock coil packs. May 2, 2004 · From the pick up it goes into the vrin and gnd. Location: Wallasey, Merseyside. IGN to JS10 (tacho output), JS9 to S12C, J Oct 14, 2022 · Re: Wasted Spark and LS Coils for Dummies. you are running 8 coils but only have 4 outputs? so 2 coils wired to each output so will have to select wasted spark NOT Oct 26, 2009 · close that and re open the menu and select "wheel decoder settings" set your base teeth as 2, then select second trigger enable and select "rising". With a 3D spark table, rev limiter, launch control, and flat shifting. Sep 28, 2011 · I'm trying wasted-cop mode. Nov 26, 2022 · I am stuck on a Nissan MS2pnp SR20DET. My settings is : Spark Mode - Toothed Wheel Ignition Input Capture - Rising Edge Spark output - Going High Number of coils - Wasted COP Spark hardware in use - MS3x Spark Main wheel speed - crank Wheel Maximum Dwell - 5,5ms SpkA = 1 SpkB = 3 SpkC = 4 SpkD = 2 Mar 9, 2014 · Setting the spark to "wasted-COP" will use all three LEDs, JS11, JS4, and JS5 as spark outputs. Spark out 1 vb921 (q16) over heating when plugged into coil pack. May 14, 2017 · Used the dual coil packs from a 99 Rolla for the wasted spark setup. - 2 cylinder boxer engine where both cylinders are at top dead center at same time, but on opposing cycles. The MS3/3X initially is fuel only initially but future plans are for wasted spark or COP ignition. Jun 10, 2019 · Very early on EDIS was popular because it did wasted spark and the v2. He is running mS1 with a 3. • 2 yr. First we will cover the basics of coil types and then move on to wiring required to connect your ECU to these coils. Apr 23, 2009 · 1987 Porsche 944 N/A. e. This should work because a I6 fires every 120 degrees, with a V12 it fires every 60 degrees. by mdps » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:50 pm. 2 and i dont believe it can run sequential spark without some modification. Feb 12, 2020 · Re: wiring V8 COP on MS2 as Wasted Spark? by dontz125 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:21 pm. In addition to the higher ECU cost I needed to buy not just a MS3 cable but the additional MS3X cable. The Miata input should also work with Hall effect sensors. It's been running fine with a standard coil pack and wasted spark, I have an ignition amplifier between the ms and the coil pack at present as this was recommended by my ms builder and it works really well. This uses Megasquirt-2 technology. Therefore an 8 cylinder engine can be run as either wasted spark or wasted-COP setup with ignitors off the same spark output to directly drive the COP's. What differs with the Toyota DLI setting? Thanks again for all the help. 151 posts · Joined 2011. Just wondering if spark is similar. The Microsquirt is ready to support a wide variety of engines out of the box, with the ability to control anything with one to eight cylinders Currently my ignition is a stock 4 cylinder distributor coil setup with a MSD 6 BTM driving the coil. The manual discusses the below: Spark A to Right of R26 to Pin 7 on the CPU. Crank triggered distrubutor less. I would like to keep the MSD for the future because it is capacitive discharge, multiple spark and there is manual adjustment for boost retard. Does it work, if I took one spark output at the X board, to fire up two of the vag/VW/audi tfsi cop's? Or is it to much power for the spark output? At the HB541 datasheet they wrote, that max. Twin turbo LS E36 M3. Apr 30, 2010 · 4/30/10 1:24 p. 3. Everything works when testing. "Agreed, that should work; but the input impedance of the BIP 373 is high enough that your add-on resistor could be even higher, up to 10K would probably also work and give more short-circuit protection for the '541 outputs. Aug 2, 2011 · For spark control I had the folks at DIYAutotune install 6 BIP373s, 2 per channel on spark A,B, and C. Coil types. ago. in effect 4 coils in wasted spark. Coils come in many shapes and sizes. if it was a 4 cylinder engine wasted spark would use 2 outputs, wasted cop would use 4 outputs one coil to each output but fire the outputs in pairs. 44. - MS configured as odd fire and per the odd fire pattern (90, 150, 90, etc) With this configuration it seems to me that MS (Extra or MS3) will cycle through each of the coils as configured for each of the cylinders. MicroSquirt is the entry-level fully-assembled version of the MegaSquirt-2 ECU. That brings me to the power wire next. Temporarily shut down - back soon! Jun 18, 2017 · Hello, I want to build a V12 with the X-Board. Lurch320i. My coils are COP, also with a plug wire for the “wasted spark” cylinder too. 1 and later code allows using WLED for spark output C and ALED for spark output D. 4 channels on a 4-cyl is full sequential, and needs a cam signal of some sort. I have 6 LS2 coild that have 4 wires each. I have decided that I want to use Megasquirt to drive the ignition on my old BMW. One of my stock EOM coils has melted on my 1998 NB mx5. Just one for a single coil, ½ the number of cylinders for wasted-spark, or equal to the number of cylinders for individual “Coil on Plug” setups. Mk4Vr6TurboMS3Pro. 57 system and let the pros at DIY do any mods. 8L M30. Trigger Wheel Settings. Wasted spark VW COP's, later logic-level driven model (L to R revisions). Jan 13, 2015 · Re: vw 2. Oct 19, 2007 · For waste spark you only need the crank sensor, for full COP you need the cam to pulse on #1 tdc when the cam is in phase as well. V3. 57 board for ignition control. As Wes pointed out CD has little or no benefit on a wasted spark/COP ignition set up. Mar 5, 2023 · The ms does care you are firing three outputs, this is called waste spark (even if 6 coils) in the settings. I have nothing intelligent to say about the wiring order; if your engine's firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2, then you're good to go. The only ones that are high impedance are the Hitachi brand bolt down coils. by TriumphMk2PI » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:01 pm. How to convert to Fuel Injection on SBC V8s with TPI or TBI injection and HEI ignition with electronic spark timing - MegaSquirt EFI Feb 3, 2024 · Re: MS3 6 cylinder wasted spark query. m. Beyond that, I don't think the MSD 6 or the firmware has the capability to do what you want. Spark C to Bottom of R27 to Pin 9 on the CPU. This works fine when i set it to Wasted COP with the same trigger angle as i used before when running dizzy cap and ignition cables. No detail was given, and I can’t even find the source again, but I was wondering if there was anything to this? Nov 4, 2022 · But 3. 0l v6 Ford Duratec engine running on a MS1 (3. Plus two Ignition boxes instead of one for Dec 10, 2013 · This is normally done in anticipation of going full sequential COP once you get the cam signal sorted out; if you intend to leave it that way, Wasted COP is a waste of two outputs, and you may as well select Wasted Spark. Number Of Coils = Wasted Spark (or single coil if single coil) Spark A output Pin = D14 (again can be sparkA if using the stock transistor). 1. now for trigger position a type "1" and for trigger position b type "2" and thats it, make sure everything else is set to zero, then make sure your dizzy mode is set to normal, save burn and close Mar 17, 2024 · Cable size wasted cop V6. I will try and be as complete as possible, and detail all connections and wiring, and components used. 3v on the trigger input - found this out the hard way. 0 16v abf ms1 v3 wasted spark. E30 Zone Regular. 8mA would work. A base map is just a starting point, it becomes your MSQ when you load it in your MS (especially after you make any changes). Apr 28, 2013 · This thread is to try and document a full build on a Silver Top 4age engine. MS3 incorporates 8 fuel+2 Aux and 8 logic-level spark ignition outputs, offering full sequential fuel and spark for hi-z injectors and logic level coil-on-plug coils (or high-current coils with suitable external ignition module. -Paul. ) Sep 9, 2018 · Just curious about the wasted cop. Apr 11, 2015 · Tach Input/Ignition Options. The COP setup is for modules without a built in ignitor (2 or 3 wired devices) for 4 or 5 wired COPs see HERE. 2 ms should be good on most non-Toyota coils. Im trying to convert it to COP. I mainly want to get my idea down 'on paper', and hear your thoughts about wasted COP. I would recommend either 6-1 or 12-1. Paul_VR6 Reader. The GM COP coils for the '02 to '05 motor take a max of 3. Wasted Spark I would definitely recommend starting with a simple wasted spark ignition setup with a coil pack before going to full coil-on-plug. If someone wouldn't mind letting me know if I am on the right track that would be great as well. tried it with VB921s, no dice. In the end, I decided to take the Spark A, B and C pickups off the resistors as described in 5. Oct 3, 2022 · The microsquirt spark drivers work OK (100ohm pullup) but I think their NPN transistor is more robust than the MS3/3x to be able to drive waste pair LS coils. And yes I could have done it myself but our policy with customer installs was/is to buy a V3. I have the car wired up to run sequential fuel and spark. I'm new to megasquirt, and currently I'm working on megasquirt2 BMW M60 engine project the board is assembled and wired, I have an engine rmp signal, injectors and fuel pump are working also. 2 mainboard had no ignition outputs. Although you will have a coil per plug (essentially COP) that is not how Microsquirt sees it, so make sure you select wasted spark. 6 ms spark duration gives a 66% duty cycle. 0 Board). Feb 15, 2014 · Howdy folks, Trying to setup my megasquirt and just running into some questions regarding wasted COP. ” May 8, 2020 · This build will assemble a MegaSquirt-II v3. Aug 30, 2005 · Measures 4. Posts: 517. May 14, 2019 · Re: Wasted Coil on Plug. If you want full sequential spark/ignition, yes, but that's not what he's asking. The reason is because each coil fires twice per cycle (once in the intake stroke and once on the exhaust), thus Nov 13, 2012 · I have “read on the internet” that wasted spark can provide some advantage over COP ignition in turbo engine applications. Super MS/Extra'er. Stock COP Wasted Spark. If this is not an option in your drop down, update the firmware. Set 'Number of Coils' to [Wasted Spark]. My settings is : Spark Mode - Toothed Wheel Ignition Input Capture - Rising Edge Spark output - Going High Number of coils - Wasted COP Spark hardware in use - MS3x Spark Main wheel speed - crank Wheel Maximum Dwell - 5,5ms SpkA = 1 SpkB = 3 SpkC = 4 SpkD = 2 Jan 23, 2014 · ms2 v3 waste cop no spark. By Nismo280zEd August 21, 2007 in MegaSquirt. Aug 6, 2013 · COP or CNP) - MS set up as V12, wasted spark. Various older revs had input impedance between 300-500ohms and could work but none of the new ones. Hence my confusion. Waste cop uses 6 outputs not 3, they just are fired in pairs via software. Been trying to get a second hand project running and I’ve switched between COP wasted spark and wasted spark in the drop down options trying to find some life in it. by quark2501 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:21 am. Feb 29, 2012 · Re: MS2 6 Cylinder Wasted Spark Help. 0 or V3. (5 more can be added) Then read the hardware manual. If using three spark outputs - even if wired to COP coils - this should be wasted spark. I have no idea the amps drawn by a single cop unit. The stock dizzy can be modded, and the dsm sensor can be modded, just be aware that they will need to be modded. Apr 13, 2010 · I was thinking about this also, but all the documentation for running these style ignitors requires three coil outputs from megasquirt, where all the documentation and support for doing this seems to be coming from the V1 daughter card users with megasquirt. It's a wasted spark setup direct coil drive (2x vb921) spark out a led 14 spark b, led 16. And wired for running wasted spark. Sep 1, 2011 · Re: MS3X: how to drive high current coils (wasted spark or C. ) billr. One fused live will split and feed to all 6 cops and the 3 outlets from the ignition amp will split into pairs to run wasted pairs. 0 has the option (2 internal jumpers) to send logic-level spark outputs which seem to be working great with the VW COPs (200 miles so far with no problems). Setup: 7mgte 6 cylinder COP (toyota matrix, 4 wire, I am guessing logic level) Low impedence 440cc r/megasquirt. Firing order in 153624. 3 of TFM Sep 10, 2017 · The r8 definitely have a low input resistance as do almost all "current rev" vag coils. Spark B to Bottom of R29 to Pin 8 on the CPU. This install is headed for a stripped out MR2 that will be trailered to autocross events. If you run out of available dwell time at high RPM (going by dwell + spark duration), the MS reduces dwell time and spark duration proportionally - e. Coils are paired 1&6, 5&2 and 3&4. For spark output we're running in wasted mode on spark A,B&C. Tooth #1 angle = 84 Wheel Speed = Crank Wheel. But how many mA need the cop's to work without issues? Driving two coils from the same spark output e. Today's Posts; Calendar; Forum; Competition and Performance; Engine Management & Proper Tuning; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Spark D JS11 to Pin 18 on the CPU. hello im from panama i have a ms2 v3. by R100RT » Sun May 19, 2019 3:34 am. Option 1 is to go the really popular route of fitting Denso stick coils to give a COP setup. Would I just need to trick the ECU by running 2 coil drivers each from the two spark outputs that he is currently using? Sep 28, 2011 · I'm trying wasted-cop mode. If running four coils in wasted spark COP, you’d split each of the MicroSquirt’s spark output wires to two wires on the QuadSpark. i configure the logic level whit a grand vitara cops they have 1k ohm 3 wire 1- v12, 2-grong, 3- 5v i use the led configuration a 1k resistor on proto area now change to 4. Can i run this without the cam trigger wheel? Also do i use the 750 ohm resistor with each bip ignitor or a 330ohm? a lot of info refers to the vb 921 old ignitors. Mar 17, 2024 · The cops will run wasted spark, so 3 pairs of 2 cops at a time. - MS set up with 6 coil drivers. 4. Rubber cap adds another 3/4" length, but goes over ceramic and can be removed if desired. Matt Cramer -1966 Dodge Dart slant six running on MS3X. There is little talk of MSII V3 using dummy "waste spark" cop's. hx kx kr jc ex yv ku te re hm